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Post by Boromir_and_kermit on Aug 8, 2011 18:04:14 GMT 10
G'day guys, Please post your thoughts below about which Natural Selection card you prefer and why. If you have any suggestions also, I would love to hear them. Personally, I like the new template, but am unsure as to whether the blue text or white text is better (leaning towards the blue on Template B). But don't let that stop you from disagreeing. This is an open forum to let me honestly know what you think about the cards and why. Template A  Template B  Template C  I very much appreciate your help with this. Cheers, Ben. |
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Post by maccioniath on Aug 8, 2011 22:31:26 GMT 10
Hmm, may just be me, but I can't see Template B at all. I really like Template C. That may just be my natural prejudice towards Luftles showing through, though. I'll wait until I can actually see B to make my final determination. EDIT: Hrm, nevermind. Now I can see all three. I still like C the best. The light blue text is a bit hard to read against the background. Template A just looks a bit too plain, a bit unfinished. And C has Luftles!  |
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Post by emergencyoverride (Michael) on Aug 9, 2011 3:00:11 GMT 10
Template C for me also. The text is easier to read and the background design looks awesome! I like the pond and trees. Also the way the pond sides frames the text gives it that I belong here look. Nice work! ;D
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Post by cldecker on Aug 9, 2011 10:20:38 GMT 10
Template C works best for my eyes with the brighter lettering. I also favor the visual style with the water and overhanging branches that direct the eye to the text.
Nice stuff!
;D
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Post by occulitebob on Aug 9, 2011 10:57:09 GMT 10
Hey folks, sorry I've been MIA a bit lately, busy busy.
I have to say, template A is actually my favorite - I like that all 6 tribes are represented. However, the new artwork is pretty cool, too. Between B and C I vote C as well, the light blue text is just a tad harder to read.
Michael makes a good point, though - that pond on templates B and C does provide a nice spot for text.
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Post by Boromir_and_kermit on Aug 9, 2011 18:57:45 GMT 10
Thanks for the feedback guys. After sitting on it for a while, my eyes prefer C as well. The text is easier to read. No worries Tom - things can get busy really quickly - I can totally sympathise! I understand liking the 6 tribes being represented. I have to admit, so do I, but in the end I thought that this way, the Luftles were at least there (which are available to all tribes) and so thought that was a nice middle ground. Something I 'might' do to represent all the tribes is to have a sixth of the deck with luftles, a sixth of the deck with a Palaudis Occulite instead of the Luftle (and do that for each tribe). Would this be something you guys would like to see? Or is it simply better to have a standardised card format? Cheers and thanks for the discussion - its great to bounce ideas off you guys! Ben. |
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Post by emergencyoverride (Michael) on Aug 10, 2011 2:33:29 GMT 10
I think it would be cool to see the other tribes on the cards as long as there are no tribe specific cards. It would still be cool at that point if there are tribe specific cards and the tribe the card was restricted to was represented by the correct picture. Other than that, sure let's see em all. ;D
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Post by occulitebob on Aug 10, 2011 8:49:47 GMT 10
Something I 'might' do to represent all the tribes is to have a sixth of the deck with luftles, a sixth of the deck with a Palaudis Occulite instead of the Luftle (and do that for each tribe). I think that sounds like a very cool idea! Unscrupulous gamers might use that as an excuse to remember/track which cards are coming up next, but that's not really a major concern for me by any means (and I don't really get the impression Dawn will lend itself to powergaming, either, so probably not an issue). |
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Post by kdlynch on Aug 10, 2011 12:02:35 GMT 10
I do like the other tribes being represented at well. the 1/6 deck idea sounds good to me, given the 'no-tribe-specific-cards' as Michael mentions.
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Post by caradoc on Aug 13, 2011 23:00:59 GMT 10
I'd love to see more varied art as well (glimpses of the other tribes would be good), but I'm also torn in thinking that a standardised card front might be best.
Ultimately, I don't think it'll matter whether the art of individualised or varied - so as I said, I'd b more than happy to see multiple tribes!
Cheers,
Giles.
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Post by cldecker on Aug 17, 2011 5:04:04 GMT 10
a random number of different tribes shown on the cards is cool, but with future tribes possible it could make things crowded at some point. The lufltle on the card I see as focal to all of the game as different occulite tribes have differing attitudes to the little critters.
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Charlie
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Post by Boromir_and_kermit on Aug 17, 2011 20:47:03 GMT 10
I can neither confirm nor deny other Occulite races have been created... they certainly wouldn't be called Silicus tribe or Tundris tribe... most definitely not...
That doesn't mean that they will appear any time soon in Dawn though...
The original thought with the Luftle was that it represents all the tribes and its own, so was central without causing future compatibility issues. One way to get around this could be to issue extra cards into the deck "if" any other tribes eventuated. But chances are the colour correction would make these cards appear different from the rest. Its a hard call...
Given that information (which I shouldn't have let slip yet) what should we do about the card graphics?
Cheers,
Ben.
How do people feel about this
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Post by kdlynch on Aug 18, 2011 0:16:10 GMT 10
Hrmmm. Well, if the deck doesn't need a change, then I wouldn't worry about releasing future tribes... What you could do is in future printings of the entire deck, have the new tribes pictured (and for a nominal fee, us 'old-timers' can buy a replacement deck) That works fine if the deck is the same save the artwork.
If the deck is going to require additions... trickier. We can buy card sleeves with coloured backs to prevent the different-colour issue if you want to just provide the 'expansion deck'. Again, with the option for us consumers to buy new replacement decks if we'd like to, but we could just get the expansion deck and use backed sleeves if we didn't want to spend the extra money.
It is a hard call... must give fits for all the CCG games out there.
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Post by emergencyoverride (Michael) on Aug 18, 2011 2:17:27 GMT 10
You could just release new cards as they come out and then later as a whole new deck. I plan on using sleeves anyway. I'll probably use clear sleeves and make some Occulite themed backs for them. I used to do it all the time for L5R and Magic the Gathering, and we always used card sleeves because they tended to change the backs between major editions. Definitely nothing to worry much about. ;D
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Post by Boromir_and_kermit on Aug 18, 2011 7:13:21 GMT 10
It is really only a problem further down the line (it will depend on its popularity really, if I can justify paying for new sculpts to be made I will) as they don't come into the story until much later.
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